Who decides how to conserve nature‪?‬ The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox's Benji Jones talks with Indigenous leader Kimaren ole Riamit about the role of Indigenous peoples in the conservation movement. Bringing the perspective of his upbringing in the Kenyan Maasai pastoral community as well as advanced degrees earned at Western institutions, Kimaren discusses with Benji the power and potential of Indigenous knowledge in combating the climate crisis, and the challenges in bridging that knowledge with the global conservation effort.
Host: Benji Jones (@BenjiSJones), Environmental reporter, Vox
Guest: Kimaren ole Riamit, Maasai leader
References: 

"Growing up Maasai and the art of healing the Earth" by Benji Jones (Vox; Mar. 16)

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